Well hello my friends, today is going to be a little different as my blog entries go. A couple of things have happened that has made me take a look at things. Some of my ideas about recovery have been challenged. I have been attempting to look objectively at this. I of course might be a little too close so here I am asking for some input on a few points. So please post any and all comments you have, they are all welcome and appreciated.
It has been implied that I am perhaps too intense about recovery. And that I need a more relaxed approach. I somewhat agree that I can be intense, sometimes preachy, and opinionated about my beliefs on recovery and the recovery process. However it is something I strongly believe in, I know what has worked for me, I know that most of this has worked for a lot of others that I have worked with, I have watched so many not follow or choose their own paths only to see them at a later date coming back and ravaged by our disease. I attempt to the best of my ability to follow the literature and to back-up my suggestions and ideas and speaking, writing with the literature and experiences. I’d like to look at my intensity being caused by my passion for recovery. I am excited about recovery, the changes, no make that miracles it has produced in my life and countless others, there are few other experiences if any that allows you to eye witness the miraculous changes in people’s lives. How can you not be passionate about a program, which literally saves millions of lives on a daily basis?
I was also challenged on my insistence of doing the steps. As well as any sort off time frame on doing the steps. If you come to me and ask for my assistance and guidance in recovery or are in a treatment centre or recovery house that purports to be based on the 12 step program. How can one not insist on mandatory work on the steps? It was suggested that you just lay out the information and if they choose to take it good, if not no problem, allow them to get to it in their own time if at all. Is it just me, that if I was allowed to set up my own agenda and timetable for the 12 steps in early recovery that I can’t say where my recovery would be today, am I the only one who sees examples of those ignoring doing the 12 steps coming back on a daily basis? Am I the only one who would question the helpfulness of a facility that endorses the 12 steps, yet after 3,6, 8 months you have made no attempt or started any work on step work, that it would be deemed acceptable? Am I also the only one who in early recovery needed direction, accountability, guidance and perhaps mostly structure, goals as well as support, and is not a lot of this through doing the 12 steps?
One of the reasons for the challenge was my endorsement of the saying “Do the Steps or Die”, well to begin with I prefer the statement “Do the Steps and Live”, however that is semantics. Overall I believe in the idea behind the statement whichever way it is said. Now I do not say that the 12 step program is the only means of recovery, however I know that has worked for me and millions of others, and no matter what the opponents to 12 step recovery say, no other form of recovery in the world has gotten as many people clean and sober, this is attested to by the over 300 12 step fellowships that have followed A.A. and the millions in 12 step meetings around the world daily. How can you join and/or be around our fellowship and not partake in the 12 step program of recovery and expect to get recovery?
Another of the challenges was in the statement “we suggest the doing the steps in the same way we suggest, if you’re going to take a crap, we suggest you take your pants down”, that this was negative. And for newcomers I should just say “you can pull up your pants now the shits over.” Again is it just me that believes that just because you’ve decided to attend meetings, and/or are in a treatment facility means the shit is over? To me the shit isn’t over until you’ve started working on your stuff and the way to do this in our fellowship is doing the steps. And then still it can take a while, again now that is my belief. So please comment on this post, for as I am writing this the more validated I fell on my positions. However if you feel that I am off the wall or whatever please post. Perhaps I am too close to see.
Oh and one other question I would pose. I believe that the average stay in a treatment facility and/or recovery house should range between 9 months to 18 months, with even 18 months bordering questionable, however this is of course dependant on the individual and factors of physical and physiological damage. A stay in excess without extreme extenuating circumstances to me would be opposed to the concept of the 12 step program, of becoming contributing members of society and enabling the client in becoming institutionalized.
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WELCOME Hi There, this blog will be about what I believe to be REAL RECOVERY not band aids or feel good BS These are the hard cold true facts that I have learned and been taught by OLD TIMERS and People WHO HAVE REMAINED CLEAN and SOBER and "GOT A LIFE".There will be no original thoughts here, Because in essence there are no original thoughts only perhaps originals and/or different ways to present or illustrate old Ideas.Now that this is understood lets get to the heart of the matter. Recovery is not about coddling or enabling. IT IS LIFE CHANGING. PERIOD WELCOME to the hardest thing that you will do in YOUR LIFE. Make no mistake, Real recovery is not EASY, it is simple, very simple, Yet you will make it hard, as all before you have. Also let's get this STRAIGHT right off the top. REAL RECOVERY has nothing to do about ALCOHOL and/or Drugs. IT IS about the way you react to life, your perceptions, and YOUR actions. Alcohol and/or Drugs are just a symptom of YOUR disease. Take notice of the word DISEASE - Which in our case translates to ILL AT EASE or simply not at ease, which is the basic nature of our problem and answer to our solution.Back to why I state that this is the hardest thing you will do. I state this because Real Recovery Will challenge everything you know/believe or really what you think you know, Because you really don't know SHIT or you wouldn't need recovery. It will make you face the truth about your biggest problem YOU and YOUR THINKING. You will face the real you not the one we would like to see with all the justifications and rationalizations just the TRUE YOU.REMEMBER GOD DOES NOT CREATE GARBAGE >>>>>>>> If you have a request or enquiry Please Email me at wiledchild@live.ca I'd like to add one other thing here for all those who read this Blog. It's something that was taught to me That was invaluable to my recovery My Spiritual Advisor Taught me this. Don't believe a word I say , do not take what I say as the truth just because I say it or anybody else, for that matter. Check it out for yourself. Try it on for size. Investigate , find out for YOURSELF only use what you have read or heard as a reference point. Find the truth out for yourself . This way it is your TRUTH not someone else's. You will also not be believing a lie or untruth if you always check things for yourself . Do not believe everything you are told or read without checking it out.
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Ok I will try to address the steps question. For me there wasn't a demanding sponsor. I had one who I spent alot of time with both in the rooms and out. We spent time really getting to know each other and she taught me alot about the program.
ReplyDeleteI feel that each person's journey is different. Yes the Steps are "suggested" but they work! By my 2nd month I asked to begin them. For some of my friends it's taken more than a year for the fog to lift long enough to really grasp Step 1.
I'll have to consider this but right now I believe it to be a sponsor/sponsee fit.
The 2nd question regarding length of time in a facility - I have no experience but I would think that 18 months would be isolating a person from the daily demands of life ...assuming it's isolated. Again I don't have much experience but here we have sober houses with strict rules and no exit date.
Great post Bill and no I don't think you are off your rocker. The 12 Steps of Alchoholics Anonymous is "How it Works". They ARE the program and if one chooses not to do the suggested program of recovery, they are likely not going to get recovery. And I see it too...every single day, the revolving doors of AA meetings. Some come for the coffee and socializing, some come to get warm and dry for an hour, and some come to learn to live. It is those ones that you know are following the steps in their everyday life. The are the ones who have what I want.
ReplyDeleteAs for treatment centres, well I don't have a lot of experience with them. Again though, I do see the people that use it as a "spin dry", a place to straighten up for a few months. Whether it is court ordered or family dropped them off on the centre's front door over and over again. But there are those who do want to be there and have a true DESIRE to quit drinking. And, surprise surprise, they are usually the ones that do the steps and follow the rules and suggestions of their counsellors.
Just my 2 cents.
Thanks for posting this Bill.
I don't know if my comment will count for much because I am not in recovery, but I think everything you have said here on your blog makes a lot of sense. You are passionate about it because it worked for you and has changed your life and just want to share it to help others.
ReplyDeleteSo much of what you say can apply to people who are not in recovery also.
Oh foolish boy...never ask me my opinion- LOL
ReplyDeleteI don't see you as "so intense" I see you as wordy.
I don't think treatment centers or 1/2 houses or any of that is necessary at all for recovery. They are however, quite handy for detoxing and hearing about our beautiful program.
Our premise is that of ourselves we are powerless over alcohol and that until we find a power (thru the steps) and until we experience that psychic change (thru the steps) we will indeed remain powerless. The problem with that is that powerless people drink again because they are powerless not to.
So unless we get people in the steps immediately they will remain powerless.
Of course the flip side of that coin is that treatment centers tell EVERYONE that they are alcoholic even if they are just heavy drinkers..and heavy drinkers can indeed stop without the steps....leading real alcoholics to think they don't need the steps right away either.
Hey this is me being passionate and WORDY!
AND---why the hell does my blog keep coming up at the bottom of everyones reader with no "last post" showing.
hee hee...I like to bring everything back to ME.
It's all good darlin'
Just keep doin' what you're doin' !!!!
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